Very true, sir. TAPPER: They haven't? THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. COVID-19 Outbreak Hits Vice President Pence's Staff; Interview With Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY); Interview With Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA); Interview With White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. We are. We appreciate it. And that's... TAPPER: By running all over the country not wearing a mask? The remarkable thing about this -- and we have done this with almost -- well, literally no documentary production from the administration -- is, the facts are really not contested. I'm Jake Tapper. PELOSI: Right. What every judge tells every jury -- and it's no different here -- is, you don't leave your common sense at the door. That is not leading. You look at a country like South Korea, 50 million people, 440 deaths. To this day, as much as Dr. Messonnier loves communicating with health care providers and the public, sources tell me she does not want to do it anymore because to do so would put her and the important work of the CDC in jeopardy. This is not a decision I will be making alone. My next guest is trying to make sure young people join that number. TAPPER: Right. But the Democrats -- again, I want to stress this. So 50 million you multiply it by 6, you still get 2,400 deaths there -- 220,000 deaths in the United States. I mean, have you been to... (CROSSTALK) TAPPER: Do you know how many people in Minnesota have gotten the virus because of Trump rallies? We're not willing to go down that road. You introduced a bill earlier this year that would ban all fracking nationwide within the next five years. TAPPER: So... PELOSI: And it's, what, nine months later. I have my mask right here. And I work for the campaign, not in the White House. You're getting a lot of messages from Democrats saying: This is good enough. A Columbia University study released this week looked at the question, what if the Trump administration had done things right from the very beginning? SCHIFF: It would be nice to have those documents before we question people like the secretary of state or question people like Mr. Parnas. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [09:22:40] TAPPER: Welcome back the STATE OF THE UNION. And... TAPPER: Well, they would -- they would cite -- sorry for interrupting, but they would cite David Kendall, who was President Clinton's attorney during that impeachment. Now, white women voters, a majority of them voted for Donald Trump. MEADOWS: Right. And people need to understand how easy this is. PELOSI: Yes. PELOSI: They haven't yet. You should ask your children's school about their plans for school dismissals or school closures, ask if there are plans for tele-school. And when people stop by, and they see that, well, no one else is wearing a mask, maybe that's OK. TAPPER: Yes. TAPPER: That's what health officials say. Our ability to handle this has improved each and every day, each and every month. TAPPER: I mean, they are always with each other. Interesting. The positivity rate is going up. TAPPER: We know, according to health officials, that masks are the best thing people can do in terms of trying to prevent the virus from spreading, period. And they have serious concerns about how the president has handled the coronavirus pandemic. That was a "New York Times" story. So, it is dangerous right now. It has nothing to do with this attack against her, this attempted attack against her. I contacted my local school superintendent this morning with exactly those questions. It was going through the process, and he resigned before it could happen. He continues to do so. Lock her up! They can all go look at it. MEADOWS: I do too, yes. They're facts. Truly, this is now rhetoric that people understand, and particularly in rural areas in my state, that, well, the president doesn't wear a mask, we don't need to wear a mask, it's not that dangerous. The end of this still feels a long way away. He's not doing poorly. I... PELOSI: But, again, the answer is, crush the virus. But... L. TRUMP: ... and that they have a president in the White House who's going to work for them. And if there were any Democratic politicians that were throwing fuel on the fire, I would say, tone it down. The United States 4% of the world's population, about right around 20% of the world's deaths, according to official numbers, despite having some of the preeminent public health agencies in the world, the CDC, the NIH, many other democracies have seen far fewer cases, far fewer deaths. Thank you so much for your time. Ultimately, though, one thing is clear. And I want to thank you for your fairness and the opportunity of going back and forth. And it's so odd to me... L. TRUMP: But you just asked me about white women, is what you just asked me about. As you just noted, you disagree with him on a range of critical issues, not just fracking, but also health care. As millions of early voters weigh in, the two presidential candidates are set for one last debate. [09:40:05] PRITZKER: Well, we have already done that. The methane emissions from fracking are up to 64 times more powerful than CO2 emissions at trapping heat in the air. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think we're going to win the House, OK? We desperately wanted even to settle for a public option during that time. Absolutely. And, quite frankly, there are bigger issues than this right now for everyday Americans. And one is, are we prepared to say that soliciting foreign interference, conditioning official acts, like $400 million in taxpayer money, White House meetings, to get political favors is somehow now compatible with the office? And... TAPPER: Even if it costs you support, Democratic support in the House of Representatives? TAPPER: I wear a mask when -- except when I'm in here, in my office, and home. Let me just say this, is, what we need to do is make sure that we have the proper mitigation factors, whether it's therapies or vaccines or treatments, to make sure that people don't die from this. L. TRUMP: You will have to ask the president that directly. But we have a few weeks here to see whether there are four Republicans who will step back from this precipice. TAPPER: Is there still time to change the trajectory of the race? MEADOWS: We did that in -- in this particular -- well, in -- in that -- in that vein, when you look at Chris Christie, it's within 48 hours of symptoms. But is that really a principle, the idea that it's just going to take too much time, as opposed to, look, there are three branches of government, here's the legislative branch doing oversight of the executive branch, guess what, the judicial branch gets to weigh in as well? From his return to the campaign trail on Tulsa to his Rose Garden event last month to events in Minnesota and beyond. So, we have to act. And we have seen time and time again the importance of getting documents before witnesses testify, as we saw during the hearing, when Sondland, Ambassador Sondland, brought in documents showing the secretary of state was implicated in this. OK. L. TRUMP: So, I don't -- I -- I'm giving you my honest answer. We ask them to wear them. I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline. But I agree with you that we shouldn't take anything for granted in these last few weeks, and it is still possible for President Trump to win reelection. But, at the end of the day, this is a decision about whether the founding fathers had in mind this kind of misconduct when they gave Congress this remedy. They depleted the stockpile of N95 masks... TAPPER: I mean, these are just talking points. This was in the final presidential debate Thursday. L. TRUMP: The bottom line here is that women in America want their kids to get back to school safely. TAPPER: Mark, the president -- the president is holding rallies all over the country. There's also the obstruction of justice that Mueller wrote about so extensively. SCHIFF: She was told not to come in. Now, I understand you would welcome their testimony. MEADOWS: But under -- under your article just yesterday, you're suggesting that Thanksgiving is going to be a super-spreader event. But we have continued to make offer after offer after offer. How do you respond to these women? Now, there's been more obstruction of Congress that goes beyond Ukraine. Now Democratic nominee Joe Biden says seeing how that process plays out could determine whether he will consider supporting a push to add more justices to the court next year if he wins. Take a listen. And Nancy continues to move the goalposts. They're -- right, now young people are so clear on their stances on many political issues, that they believe that they want to vote for a president that is at least going to be receptive to their advocacy, activism and protest, frankly. There's no guarantee of that, but I think that it's entirely possible. No, I understand that. She was told that, if she came in and testified, it could contravene this privilege or that privilege. But testing has gone up 16 percent in the last month. MEADOWS: ... will -- will they be safe? And if you're interested in his plan, you can read his plan. There are people that are in a lot of pain. And my understanding is, he will be reviewing that over the weekend, and we will have some answers on Monday. Chris Christie who was infected and actually was in the intensive care unit for several days -- we're so glad he is feeling better -- says that no one at the White House called him to contact trace. They want to get back to work. We are trying to get the word out. In this week's State of the Cartoonion, Jake Tapper explores the similarities between today's politics and iconic Seinfeld moments. And so what I'm here to tell you is, is, we need to find the vaccines and the therapeutics to actually give Americans the relief that this is not a death sentence... TAPPER: Mark. TAPPER: Yes. LARA TRUMP, TRUMP CAMPAIGN SENIOR ADVISER: Well, thank goodness that she's OK. And I want to say thank you, Jake, for having me on. It's going to require delivering every Democratic vote in the Senate and peeling off Republican votes to agree to it. That video has now more than five million views. And just from a perspective of stopping climate change, there is a scientific consensus. SCHIFF: I think what it will mean, if we decide that we cannot accept this kind of conduct in the President of the United States, and the Republicans decide that, because of the President's party, or because they're afraid of a primary, or for whatever reason, they cannot vote to support impeachment, I think it'll mean a failure by the GOP to put the country above their party. Why does he continue to use such heightened rhetoric at a time when her life was literally in danger, according to the FBI? TAPPER: How much longer will Americans have to wait? But this shouldn't be driven by what we think helps us in 2020 or hurts us in 2020. TRUMP: Not much. He would make sure... TAPPER: That's not -- that's not true. It's an interesting message for this president, especially when you compare his words to his deeds. We had to make sure that not only were people safe and healthy physically, but this president put forward for the Paycheck Protection Program. He has fast-tracked a vaccine. And so I think, while -- again, while the vice president wants to make sure that he's not doing it by a government mandate or regulation, I do believe that we are moving towards that future. Judge Amy Coney Barrett appears to be on something of a glide path to the U.S. Supreme Court, with Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee all but certainly vote this week to send her nomination to the full Senate for a vote ahead of the election. L. TRUMP: Well, gosh, I would like to show people my social media and the threats against me, the threats against my children, when you have members of the Democrat Party coming out and telling people, get in their face, go harass them.