The big issue I have is that we will only have access to it in postboard games, meaning we could be put into a bad situation with a Phyrexian Revoker naming Lightning Storm and us then having a useless card in hand with Hushbringer, even worse is if they are playing straight Pithing Needle which would be a huge blowout naming Lightning Storm. Portions of the materials used are property of Wizards of the Coast. Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. Card Text. Good luck with this deck! The edict of the Circle demands their voices be silenced." If you want a list of all the dorks, draw engines, etc. Add by ModernT1mes, Winota, Budget Snowball Stax Firstly, thank you for the compliments, they are much appreciated, getting to your questions though, I will preface with saying that at this point I have played a lot more WITH the new additions to taxes than against it on Ad Naus meaning I do not have a ton of concrete data to back up my points. 2 cards I think you should really consider running: Head Games and Zur's Weirding. In other words, I don't think fear of D&T should throw you onto a boardwipe by and of itself, but rather D&T and the creature decks that could come behind it if it gets very popular. Finally, take out Deafening Silence and Meddling Mage. Deafening Silence, Hushbringer, Banishing Light, Heliod's Punishment, Archon of Emeria, Nahiri's Binding, Drannith Magistrate, Eidolon of Obstruction, Runed Halo, Dreadful Apathy, Archon of Absolution, Faith's Fetters, Shatter the Sky, Elspeth Conquers Death, Journey to Oblivion, Harmonious Archon, and Realm-Cloaked Giant. Here are my favorites per color, and of course, colorless! Kaladesh Remastered Full Card List Spoiled: Set Breakdown, Excluded Cards, and More. ©Wizards of the Coast LLC. Moving to sideboarding considerations then, Grand Abolisher is fairly solid yes, as to whether it does enough is a bit of a trickier question. Although there are some other staples at 1 cmc that commonly see play such as Mystic Remora, a wide range of interaction spells in every color, and some useful artifacts (depending on the metagame) such as Grafdigger's Cage, Manifold Key, or Soul-Guide Lantern. The former just doesn't do enough when you could just cast their threatening spell yourself to get rid of it. My opinions on the matchup have not changed much, I still believe it to be relatively comfortable though with a strong margin of error dependent on pilot. All Rights Reserved. Skyclave Apparition is a card I am only worried about inasmuch as they tend to play the playset. If you want to play Hushbringer you do have some options though, siding out all the oracles and playing Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Laboratory Maniac, or something more obscure such as Conflagrate (which does have some additional utility in this matchup) could make it possible. Granted they can slow down our development, or worse tag Phyrexian Unlife, but at the end of the day I think we need to evaluate what that line of play translates to for us. This site is unaffiliated. At MTGGoldfish, we value your privacy. —Syr Tasdale, knight of Ardenvale. Each player can't cast more than one noncreature spell each turn. In the face of a lot of D&T and the decks that would accompany its rise I would also strongly consider a plan B in the sideboard. Maybe think about Grand Arbiter Augustin IV or Derevi, Empyrial Tactician. Legalities. Throne of Eldraine — Uncommon. MTGO WikiPrice is the leading Magic the Gathering Online card pricing system with thousands of MTGO bots that buy and sell the cards you're looking for by KraigwithaC, Avacyn's Apocalypse © 1995-2020 Wizards. All emails include an unsubscribe link. DMCA requests | MTG Arena Zone is unofficial Fan Content permitted under the Fan Content Policy. Then though you would have to be willing to accept the loss of a sideboard slot for an alternate win-con that still needs to function within the combo, I'd argue that is worse than just playing a plan B. TappedOut.js Blog Widget, Rune Tail, Kitsune Ascendant Creatures & Lifegain, Deafening Silence + Glen Elendra Archmage + Solemnity, [Primer] - Ad Nauseam Combo [[Procellam Legit]], [cEDH] Tana & Tymna - "The Bloodweaver Sisters", Dragon's Eye Sanctuary | Dragonlord Ojutai EDH. In summation though I still like the matchup, it has gotten a bit closer I will concede, down from 70-30 to probably closer to 55-45 if I am being generous lacking a substantial amount of data. There are some useful hate pieces as well in some colors (mostly white) such as Deafening Silence or Dryad Militant. You should also consider running more mana rocks like Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, and Fellwar Stone. Each player can't cast more than one noncreature spell each turn. How do they fit into your commander's strategy? Each player can't cast more than one noncreature spell each turn. Have you considered Spellseeker? 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At the end of the day we still go over their head meaning the burden is on them to stop us not so much for us to win, if that makes any sense, I apologize if it doesn't. MTGGoldfish, Inc. is not affiliated with Wizards of the Coast LLC. I also should point out, in case someone else is reading this as well, that the lands entering tapped clause is very relevant and should be considered as it can slow us down considerably. I can tell you want to incorporate some sort of stax/pillowforty element into your deck with cards like Lawmage's Binding and Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer, but there are better cards we could swap these out for like Ghostly Prison to complement your Propaganda and Crawlspace to limit the amount of hitters coming at you. Deafening Silence will look at the entire turn to see if a player has cast a noncreature spell yet that turn, even if Deafening Silence wasn’t on the battlefield when that spell was cast. As such, we're letting you know that we've updated our Privacy Policy to reflect the new rule set forth by the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). I hope it comes out to your liking and I hope I was of some assistance. Also think about cards that you could improve on. : (Not including obvious cards like Sol Ring, Skullclamp, Swords to Plowshares, Swan Song, Elvish Mystic, because... duh). I will start by saying if D&T is of great concern to you I would consider a mainboard Echoing Truth solely on account of this card, that said in a wide meta that isn't viable and we then have to be smart about beating it. Here, Phyrexian Revoker becomes relevant, as having the ability to both shut off and remove or set-up and thus be able to be more selective is an issue we need to address, a point I'll get to shortly. The other 2 drops in their deck (pre-board) are Leonin Arbiter and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, if they are playing Skyclave Apparition turn 3 then we can also assume healthily that the latter was not the play as in that case scenario they have less to fear as concerns a turn 4 win. Overall I like being in that spot even if we have lost a Pentad Prism, of course scenarios could change if we were reliant on that Pentad Prism but being reliant on 1 rock is already a good way to lose against taxes. "They have forsaken their vows. Receive 10% off with the code GOLDFISH! On a much different note, the BW versions are much tougher. Receive 10% off with the code GOLDFISH. We've updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Deafening Silence MTG Arena Zone © 2020. Archon of Emeria though is a real issue, and one that should be taken seriously, maybe even necessitating an Echoing Truth on main in certain metas. The deck is too much of a meta deck really to reach Hogaak levels of play to draw a comparison, that said with the current meta the way it is I wouldn't be surprised if D&T got to 5-15% of the field, at which point your argument for a board wipe could be a consideration. If D&T is a concern I would likely consider up to 2 Grand Abolisher however Grand Abolisher doesn't exactly solve any problem inasmuch as it nullifies issues while we address the larger problem. Deafening Silence card price from Throne of Eldraine (ELD) for Magic: the Gathering (MTG) and Magic Online (MTGO). I do not want to come across as dismissive here though, they play a playset of Skyclave Apparition, that is something we have to be aware of, in other words, Lotus Bloom becomes ever more important. As the deck is currently constructed then its a cool idea but a bit too risky for my liking. I believe we are fairly safe to assume that Stoneforge Mystic was not the turn 2 play (in most circumstances, perhaps we are on the play and they fear a turn 4 win which is also a possible scenario). Privacy statement | With that you would have a plan B (albeit a card intensive one for your board) and a board wipe that both allows you to play Hushbringer as a piece of hate (Thassa's Oracle would likely be the cut for the package post-board), and play around Archon of Emeria effectively. If you have further questions, or just clarification of my thoughts here, please do let me know.